When Barry Met Kara

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SUMMARY: After developing sonic powers, Siobhan breaks Livewire out of her holding cell to get revenge against Cat and Kara. However, first they will have to go through both Supergirl and the Flash, who accidentally ran onto this world.

Margaret: Welcome to Tales from the Krypton, Episode 18. We just watched the Flash’s crossover with Supergirl and, as I have often seen before, the Flash brings out the best in the characters he interacts with.

Syd: I know that nerds are supposed to love crossovers, but I have to confess that I am predisposed against them. Too often in comics, the crossover issues only serve to delay or divert the series for the sake of a story that just isn’t as entertaining as what I was reading the series for in the first place. In Supergirl in particular, if there is a crossover or a tie-in, it tends to be the worst story of the year, unless there are two crossover/tie-in stories, in which case they are the two worst stories of the year. That being said, this episode was easily the best episode of the series.

Margaret: I have been apprehensive, but excited about this episode for weeks. In the other two Berlanti shows I have seen – Arrow and The Flash – whenever Oliver Queen and Barry Allen interact with each other, it always brings out the best in Oliver Queen. It seems like whenever you have Barry in the same room as someone else, he always elevates the conversation and the other character, because he believes so much in other people that he can’t help but enhance the series. So, whenever there was a crossover with the Arrow, I always really enjoyed it because it always brought levity to an otherwise “dark” series that dealt with a lot of death and difficult choices, and while it would still deal with that, they would see it from Barry’s point of view, where he would make Oliver reexamine his choices and realize that there were better ways to do things. Oliver also got Barry to not always rely on his powers, so it was good all around. I was hoping going into Supergirl that Barry would bring the same thing to Kara Danvers and to Supergirl and I am so relieved that’s exactly what he did.

Syd: I have to say, I was skeptical about this episode until Barry showed up and his good will was so infectious.

The episode starts at the DEO, where Siobhan was taken after falling off a roof. Did Winn really think that was a better place to take her than a hospital?

Margaret: I can see why Winn brought her to the DEO. It’s weird, because mostly they have dealt with detaining the kind of people who can do what Siobhan has done, however they also seem to be the best equipped to figure out what’s happening to her. I would let that one slide. What I would not let slide is the fact that, unlike anyone else, they let her walk out the door not knowing what was going on with her. This woman is scared, doesn’t know what’s going on, has the ability to level a sidewalk with her voice, and they’re like, “Ok, lady, just leave and we’ll hope for the best.”

Syd: Maybe they should have had someone keep an eye on her, but I would have been more uncomfortable if they had detained her against her will, like they are doing to Leslie Willis and have been since she last showed up four months ago. Even with a new director and even after the fiasco with Lexwell, nobody at the DEO questions the fact that they are holding an American citizen who is a human and therefore not even in their jurisdiction.

Margaret: I’m not saying they should have detained her, but they could have at least had her under observation, because they know that something is going on that they can’t explain and it could be dangerous. This is what they’re supposed to be doing and they did nothing about it.

Syd: We’re so used to seeing the DEO overstep their authority that it is jarring to see them fail to follow through on something.

Margaret: I don’t think it would be a breach of conduct for them to have an agent escort her to make sure she doesn’t become a supervillain, which she does.

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Syd: Instead of an agent, why not Winn? It was sad watching Siobhan become a supervillain just because Winn and Siobhan have the best relationship on the show. I really liked their chemistry in the scenes they had together. Siobhan seemed to bring out the best in Winn and I’m afraid that with her gone, Winn will revert to the toad that he was at the beginning of the series.

Margaret: I’m hoping they won’t, because I loved his connection to Barry. I’m hoping they continue that same energy and follow through with it as opposed to kind of leaving it by the wayside. His immediate acceptance of Barry being from another universe, his excitement about the mulitverse and talking science with him – not to mention riffing off of James and his forlorn looks – were fantastic. I like him being the light hearted one and I’m hoping they’ll just continue in that direction. Though, I imagine they’ll have to deal with the fallout of his personal life following this episode.

Syd: I think you’re right that the show has been finding a niche for Winn. It will be interesting to see how he deals with losing Siobhan, but it will be more interesting to see what his place finally becomes in this world.

Margaret: I think they’ve figured out that Winn has not really been working out as a character before this and now they have to actually find something for him to do.

Syd: Then Supergirl is talking about how the general populace doesn’t really trust her any more. She talks about how she’s tried everything, even helping a family assemble an IKEA table, which doesn’t sound like it would be an effective way to drum up public support, all things considered.

Margaret: Not to mention that it’s not really the best use of a superhero’s time.

Syd: The most interesting thing she says was referring to the S crest on her chest, when she said, “This symbol doesn’t mean what it used to,” which sounds like a commentary on the reaction to Dawn of Justice.

Margaret: They must have filmed this weeks ago, though…

Syd: Right, it couldn’t have possibly been referring to that, and that wouldn’t necessarily have been this show’s attitude, as it has drawn from Man of Steel, which has the same Superman, several times, but that’s where my mind went, since I’ve read so much in the three days since Dawn of Justice was released about how Zack Snyder’s Superman is a betrayal of everything the character stands for. To hear an official DC property even unintentionally echo that sentiment so soon after just floored me.

Margaret: Plus it was weird to hear Kara say, “I made one mistake and that’s all it took to erase all the good I did before.” All I can reply to that is, “You made a couple of mistakes in that episode.”

Syd: She also made a few mistakes that the public doesn’t know about

Margaret: Exactly. There was more than just one mistake that led the public to be against her.

Syd: Still, we want her to pull through because we want a likeable hero on this series, which we get when Grant Gustin shows up.

Margaret: Next, Cat Grant gets a box of cupcakes delivered to her – I forget why – and she starts to make analogies about cupcakes and how everyone wants cupcakes and the best ones get snapped up. This turns into a conversation about how Kara needs to eat James Olsen before someone takes his cupcake?

Syd: Let me just say, Mehcad Brooks is kind of a delicious cupcake. I see where she’s coming from.

Margaret: I’m not denying that.

Syd: Then Cat gives some seriously horrible, regressive relationship advice. Apparently, she wrote some self-help book about what she calls “The Lighthouse Technique” in which a woman attracts a man by shining the bat signal and waiting for him on a rooftop, which is stupid because any man who is snared by such a technique will just disappear as soon as her back is turned.

Margaret: “Put on your light and a man will come to you,” as opposed to, “Hey, if you like this person, maybe you should talk to him.” Let’s be adults.

Syd: It was full-on weird. Never before has Cat given such awful advice.

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Margaret: Cat’s advice to Kara scenes, before they dropped it, were the highlight of the series. It wasn’t always the best advice, but you definitely saw where she was coming from and why she was giving it. This came out of nowhere and is horrible. It is not at all what I would expect from Cat Grant. Cat wouldn’t turn on her light and let a man come to her. She would fucking go out and go, “Hey, you’re interesting, I’m interesting, let’s go get a drink.”

Syd: I don’t think she’d say, “You’re interesting.” That’s too nice. She would say, “You should be interested in me,” and then throw in a pop culture reference. Maybe Lady Gaga or something.

Margaret: The very idea that she thinks that the way to get a man is to let him come to you is so incongruous with her character that it really jarred me. Why are you doing this? While Cat’s advice hasn’t always been what I would give to somebody else, it at least fit with Cat’s character. These were just regressive, weird man-catching techniques that Cat would never need to get a man.

Syd: Then Siobhan breaks into Catco and screams Kara out a window, where she is saved by the Flash and from this moment until the moment the Flash leaves, this becomes an entirely different show. Suddenly, the show is manic fun. I suppose most of the people who watch Supergirl are already familiar with The Flash, but as someone who isn’t, this was a breath of fresh air.

Margaret: The problem that I found with Supergirl is that it was trying to be Flash-like in its energy but never really got there. The Flash definitely has its downsides and definitely has its dark points and some of the same human rights issues as Supergirl, but it also has that energy that Grant Gustin brings to the show. This is what happens with Team Flash all the time – there is a fun, happy back-and-forth that they have with each other. They finally found a way to ground Kara’s giddiness with Barry Allen’s giddiness. When it came together, it was such a refreshing thing to see, because it felt like they finally found Kara’s character. When she is interacting with Barry Allen, she doesn’t seem like a naive, weird girl who says stupid things for no reason. She’s riffing off of Barry, who’s saying all of these weird scientific things that she’s amazed by.

Syd: Their chemistry really worked. I didn’t like how they were playing up Jimmy’s jealousy of Kara’s interactions with Barry, because they did not seem romantic in the slightest. It looked like two people having fun together.

Margaret: Exactly. It was two people who were kind of kindred spirits figuring out like oh my gosh! You do this thing, I do this thing! It’s fantastic that we do this thing together! Let’s fly really fast and run really fast and be superheroes together! This is what the Flash does with other people. He revels in the idea that he’s a superhero. He loves the idea that there might be other people like him and he wants to be happy with other people. He also thinks the fact that there are aliens is just the best thing in the world.

Syd: The first thing they do is sort out what is different about their realities as far as what does and doesn’t exist. I guess I had gathered that there is no STAR Labs in Supergirl’s reality, but it was a bummer to have that definitively confirmed, because STAR Labs is such a Superman thing. I guess we’ll never see Emil Hamilton unless they completely change who the character is like they did with Jim Harper and Cameron Chase.

Margaret: It’s funny, because I don’t know anything about the comics, so while you’re disappointed that there’s no STAR Labs, I’m thinking, “Why would there be a STAR Labs on Supergirl?”

Syd: Because it makes more sense than the fucking DEO!

Margaret: To me, STAR Labs was just the reason Barry Allen has his powers. In my mind, it’s so very involved with The Flash mythos because of The Flash show. I like how they continue throughout the episode checking if their pop culture references work, like if they have Mariah Carey or The Three Musketeers. It was cute.

Syd: Miraculously, all of their pop culture is the same despite the differences between realities. Also, it’s weirdly inconsistent how lost Jimmy seemed in all of this. We saw the Legionnaire’s ring a few episodes back. We know he’s met people from the future and from other worlds. Alternate realities shouldn’t throw him for a loop like this.

Margaret: I thought it was going to tie in and I thought it would be interesting to show that Jimmy knows what’s going on because they did this before, but I didn’t miss the fact that it didn’t happen.

Syd: It isn’t wrong, but it’s weird that in his adventures with Superman, alternate realities never came up. Even if they didn’t, it’s weird that he couldn’t just extrapolate from his experiences with other worlds and other time periods.

Margaret: I guess it was just another one of those references that doesn’t mean anything and annoys the people that notice it instead of an actual link to something that makes sense and affects the story.

Syd: That sounds pretty negative, but I should remind the readers that I did enjoy this episode, because too many people can’t tell the difference between noticing an inconsistency and complaining about a story being broken. I see that a lot on the Internet.

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Then Barry shows up with the crew at Catco and how does he keep a secret identity?

Margaret: He doesn’t, really. They kind of bring that up often on The Flash, where the only main character for the entire first season who doesn’t know that he’s the Flash is Iris and it becomes a huge point of contention. He mostly only keeps his identity secret because Joe West covers for him.

Syd: Then came the best reference on the series. Cat Grant is trying to think of a name for the new speedster in town, and she says, “The Whoosh,” and I say, “The Blur,” and she says, “The Red Streak,” and I say, “The Blur,” and she says, “The Blur,” and I say, “Yay! I got that reference!”

Margaret: But I didn’t!

Syd: It’s what they call Superman on Smallville. I was so delighted by that. She took my suggestion.

Margaret: I was just annoyed that Cat said they looked like the cast of a CW show.

Syd: Oh, come on, that was cute.

Margaret: I’m not saying it’s not cute, I just thought it was a little too meta. I wonder if mentioning the CW was a contractual obligation for crossing over with a CW show.

Syd: Look, everything in this show has always been on the nose. This was the least annoying permutation of that.

Margaret: I’m not saying it’s not, but I had to bring it up.

Syd: Then Siobhan goes to visit her aunt, who is doing an Irish accent and thinks that “muggles” is a technical term among magic practitioners.

Margaret: They bring up the Irish curse that Siobhan has.

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Syd: As I pointed out when the character was first introduced, the one thing I knew they were going to do with her required her to be Irish, which she isn’t, so it’s mildly annoying that they’re just throwing in references to an Irish heritage now out of nowhere instead of just making her Irish from the beginning. This is far from the worst example of an existing character being adapted to be American or English in film or television, but it bothers me more when a character’s nationality is important to the story, but she’s American anyway.

Margaret: To be frank, I didn’t find that part annoying, mostly because they’re clearly giving her an Irish heritage, she’s just not from Ireland. To me, at least, it’s inoffensive for her not to have an Irish accent but to have an Irish heritage. I actually find it interesting that, rather than bringing in an Irish character only because she has to have a stereotypical Irish curse, she’s descended from this family that has an Irish curse. I have been told, when I was exploring my roots in Ireland, that it’s annoying when Americans go to Ireland and tell people, “I’m Irish,” when, no you’re not, you’re American; but at the same time, I like the idea of it being an Irish-American story that is getting to Irish roots. I like the idea of an American dealing with her heritage, despite the fact that they don’t really bring up much about the heritage.

Syd: So, Siobhan decides that in order to break her Banshee curse, she has to kill Kara. Of course, that was what she was trying to do before she heard about the curse, so that’s convenient. She breaks Leslie Willis out of the DEO and Leslie zaps the DEO agents guarding her. This episode didn’t actually talk about the inner workings of the DEO, which made it so much more enjoyable. If, from the beginning of the series, they had left things more vague, I wouldn’t be so horrified by the way the DEO operates. As it is, I know what the DEO is, so I wasn’t too upset to see Leslie electrocute some fascist foot soldiers.

Margaret: I wasn’t happy, but I also didn’t care about them. I didn’t think she killed innocent bystanders. Then, Kara gets a call from Lucy that Livewire has escaped. She goes into Cat’s office and tells her that she has to leave and they’ll make sure that she and her son are far away from here. Cat has a very touching moment where she says that she’s staying in National City. “I beat her before, I’ll beat her again.” Kara tells her, “You didn’t beat her alone.” And Cat replies, “I know. While the rest of the city doesn’t believe in Supergirl, I still do.” I thought it was very sweet. It was a nice moment between Cat and Kara. Despite Cat not knowing Kara is Supergirl, it meant something. Not only has she given her support to Supergirl, she has also given it to Kara.

Syd: Then, the team consults again and Barry mentions that he faced an electric opponent before called Blackout? Is this something you’re aware of?

Margaret: It’s one of those references to the Flash show. There was a metahuman that fed off of electric energy. It’s funny, because it’s a very similar character to Livewire. He fed off of electric energy, blamed Harrison Wells for the death of his friends and decided that he needed to kill him. So, that’s what he tried to do. He didn’t have snarky one liners, though. He stole Barry’s speed energy, which was the main problem of the episode. Basically, he should have already known that you shouldn’t shoot lightning at an electric character, because they’ll just absorb it.

Syd: So, Lucy meets the Flash and guesses that he’s called Speedy. It’s an old joke and I’ve heard it too many times at this point. Someone calls Wally West Speedy on the first episode of Young Justice, too. Point is, when people hear that there is a DC character called Speedy, everyone makes the joke, “Hey shouldn’t the fast guy be called Speedy?” which usually makes sense, but doesn’t on this show, where there isn’t a character named Speedy.

Margaret: And Speedy on Arrow is Thea Queen’s hero name. They also had Cat debate calling the Flash the Red Streak, earlier, which is what they called him for most of Season 1. So, then, everything is resolved with the Flash and the DEO very quickly with him just saying, “No I’m cool.” And the DEO just replying, “Okay fine.”

Syd: On one hand, I appreciate that that is what they needed to do to move the plot along. On the other hand, this is somewhat indicative of the anything goes attitude of the DEO that is so infuriating generally.

Margaret: I agree. They tend to be of the opinion that if plot demands it, then it’s fine. If you’re okay by Supergirl, you’re okay by me!

Syd: And when Supergirl set that drug dealer free, it was decided, “Eh, it’s fine. Supergirl said it’s cool, so we don’t need any trial or oversight.”

Margaret: But, I also liked how excited Barry was about the DEO. “Oh my God, that’s your spaceship? Take a picture of me in front of your spaceship!” Only to be told that maybe it’s a bad idea to take pictures inside of a classified facility.

Syd: That was adorable. We should be talking more about the amazingly cute stuff, because there was so much of that.

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Margaret: That’s kind of what the Flash does. He enters and is immediately cute. One of the things I loved about this episode is how Barry and Kara interacted and then the Flash and Supergirl also interacted.

Syd: You know they’re the same people, right?

Margaret: They interacted differently, though! Barry and Kara talked about science and their Earths. They had a meaningful conversation about being superheroes. When they were the Flash and Supergirl, they were playfully competitive, arguing about who is faster, who is stronger. I loved the banter and interplay.

Syd: It was absolutely the best. This is what was missing from this show: a superhero that has a sense of fun. After watching this episode, I can’t see how The Flash fans think Supergirl is any fun at all. She needs the Flash to bounce off of in order to not be a dour mess.

Margaret: Yes, definitely. They keep trying to show her and the show as being fun and silly, but it often fails.

Syd: Before they run off to confront the villains, there is a great moment that was so gratifying for someone who has been watching the series up to this point. Supergirl says, “Let’s go get them!” And the Flash says, “What’s our plan?” And Supergirl is so confused by the idea that they would need a plan, because that is what this series has done so far.

Margaret: I loved that they called her out on not having plans. I hope that means that going forward they’ll now have plans in place.

Syd: Not if Barry’s not around any more.

Margaret: Maybe she’ll take that to heart, because there’s other things they take to heart at the end of this episode, which I enjoyed.

Syd: They run off to confront the villains and I should bring up something I was thinking throughout this episode and the last Livewire episode: I miss Lori Petty. This woman they have playing Livewire is the worst. I remember Lori Petty’s portrayal of this character. It was charming and snarky and cool. This woman, I don’t even know what she’s trying to do. She was so annoying the entire episode.

Margaret: She was trying angry and petulant, from what I could tell. I think she was attempting to portray an, “I don’t give a fuck” mentality, but it came off as annoying.

Syd: Lori Petty, please come back.

Margaret: The bad guys beat the Flash and Supergirl. However, they use their powers as a team to distract and put off Livewire and Banshee so they can get away.

Syd: There was one moment that was kind of amazing, where she realized they were having a problem with the electrical person. Supergirl starts to shoot fire out of her eyes to set off the sprinklers and I thought, that’s such a shame that they stopped her. It was a clever use of her powers. She did something similar in the Toyman episode, but they need more of these moments where she considers unconventional uses of her powers. In the Red Tornado episode, which is now just the second best episode, they had another cute scene where she stopped the tornado by flying around it. I want to see her use her powers in novel ways, not just punching people through buildings.

Margaret: Yeah, her using her powers for things other than violence or hurting people is great. That’s the most interesting thing about powers to me, is when you do something that’s not obvious with them. From there, our heroes escape.

Syd: And Barry talks to Kara about her public relations issues. Has Barry had a time when he went evil?

Margaret: He had a time when he went evil. The police also had a task force against him for a bit. For a while they didn’t believe he existed and when they did, they thought he was dangerous and a vigilante, so they thought they should bring him to justice. That ended when he saved the city, causing him to be a Citywide Hero.

Syd: So, there was nothing as bad as the Red Kryptonite episode.

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Margaret: He had his Red Kryptonite moment. A bad guy used lights to control people’s emotions and turned him evil and angry. I think they actually used the color red, too. But, he didn’t turn against the city, he just terrorized Iris’ boyfriend – Eddie – because he was jealous of him. That caused Eddie to start leading the Metahuman task force that was meant to apprehend the Flash. Also, it made Iris fear the Flash, when before they were becoming friends and she wrote a blog about how awesome he was.

Syd: So he didn’t know exactly what she was going through, but he did give good advice. What heals things is time and that’s especially hard to accept for people with superhuman capabilities. I thought that was really insightful and really cool.

Then, Siobhan shows up at Catco with Leslie to kidnap Cat. Winn tries to help her and this was painful because the series has been pushing Siobhan to be a supervillain, but in this scene, more than any other, I wanted to see more of Winn and Siobhan together.

Margaret: Me too! His plea to her about how he understands what she’s going through because he saw it with his own father and doesn’t want to see it happen to her was so heartbreaking. It’s one of the few times I actually root for Winn.

Syd: Also, I don’t want to see Siobhan as a supervillain because they gave her the dumbass comics accurate costume, which looks terrible. That costume does not work in live action.

Margaret: I wish they didn’t go with the make-up version. It would have made more sense to just go with a mask or something. Because all I could think of when watching her was, “That must have taken hours to apply.” Why would you do that?

Syd: I wasn’t thinking of practicality issues, I was thinking she just looked ridiculous.

Margaret: A) You look ridiculous, B) It must have taken you forever to look ridiculous.

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Syd: Back at the DEO, I’m amazed how quickly the name Silver Banshee caught on. At least it makes sense. It’s not like Bizarro, which caught on immediately despite not applying to the character at all.

Margaret: Or Manhunter.

Syd: That’s another one that one didn’t apply to the character at all but caught on immediately. I suppose this is better than we’ve seen before, but still fucking weird that someone uses the phrase Silver Banshee and everyone just immediately agrees that’s this person’s name now, even though they know her actual name.

So, earlier, I was talking about how these series have the same creator and it’s an amazing contrast about how much more likeable Barry Allen is than Kara in every way. You said that The Flash must be Greg Berlanti’s favorite superhero. And that is clearly not true, because as the following scene demonstrates, his favorite superhero is obviously Spider-Man. The Flash runs on the scene and calls the villains Sparky and Shrieky. This is such a Spider-Man thing. In case it wasn’t clear enough that they were doing a Spider-Man thing, when Supergirl gets knocked down, the people of the city gather around and say, “We’re all in this together,” like in every Spider-Man movie.

Margaret: Yes. Because she carried and looked out for them for so long, we’ll now save you.

Syd: We’re going to line up the cranes so you can swing your webs. Then we’re going to throw things at the Green Goblin from the Brooklyn Bridge.

Margaret: It’s the moment of triumph, showing that she has the city with her again.

Syd: I’m not saying it’s bad. I liked the first two Spider-Man movies. I’m just saying it’s hilarious.

Margaret: I liked the firemen that came to help her after she had helped the firemen before. It was a nice book end to the arc, as the reason she lost the city’s trust was because of the Red Kryptonite in the building where she saved them.

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Syd: It was a bit too neat of an ending. But, I don’t want to see any more of her public image being dragged down, so it’s fine.

Margaret: It’s the same way I feel about the ‘J’onn J’onzz didn’t kill Aunt Astra plot line.’ I didn’t really want to see that dragged out any longer, but if she was going to be mad at anyone, it should have been Alex. I guess what they were trying to say is that she cares more about her sister than an absent aunt and through that also saw why J’onn was covering for Alex. But, that was also a bit too neat of an ending.

Syd: I do not feel the same way. The Alex killing Aunt Astra storyline had the potential for character growth between Kara and Alex and they completely dropped the ball on it. This one did not have that same potential for growth, so I’m fine with just the idea that Kara now understands that her public perception is a tenuous thing.

Margaret: Right, she’s found out that it matters what she does. She’s not going to be the hero if she doesn’t act like it. She has to prove herself.

Syd: This, actually, was way better than that. So, then, the best thing in the episode happens. Kara talks about how the villains are going to get a fair trial.

Margaret: That’s what I was hinting at before. Barry really does bring out the best in everybody because he shows them how to make metahuman jails so they will be brought to justice as opposed to arrested without charges and locked away in the DEO. They will now be put on trial. But, she attributes that to James.

Syd: You know what? Jimmy did stand up for Lexwell. Did Jimmy not know that Leslie was being held? I thought the whole thing about Lexwell wasn’t just about him being a prominent celebrity. It was about being an American citizen with rights. It is simply not a tenable position to say that you need to be technically human for a sentient humanoid to deserve rights, even if you think the aliens are too dangerous and outside the jurisdiction of the courts.

Margaret: Or already deemed by another court to be guilty.

Syd: At least the aliens were already condemned by the Kryptonian Court System, although it’s ridiculous that they never discuss whether the U.S. Government is obligated to uphold the judgement of a dead planet, but it is a justification you could possibly have. None of that applies to Leslie Willis. It’s a little weird, but they seem to be correcting it. I will not look a gift horse in the mouth.

Margaret: It was a throw away line that made me think they were finally fixing things. It elevated this episode that much more.

Syd: Then, Cat reveals that she knew Barry was the Flash the whole time. They have a little dramatic irony that doesn’t work where Cat says she can sniff out someone extraordinary pretending to be ordinary. Our reaction is supposed to be, oh, haha, because she couldn’t spot Kara. Except she absolutely did.

Margaret: Yeah! Kara had to use the alien powers of J’onn J’onzz pretending to be Supergirl in order to convince Cat otherwise. That’s why I was hoping Kara was looking uncomfortable, because she knew how right Cat is about that.

Syd: I would like to see Kara feel guilty about that because that was such a dick move.

Margaret: That was one of the worst moves of this series.

Syd: So, Barry goes back to his home Earth.

Margaret: Which was sad.

Syd: He had to go back to his own series! Then, Kara kisses Jimmy, but Jimmy has been hypnotized by Myriad.

Margaret: It looks like the three week mourning period over.

Syd: It was two weeks.

Margaret: Oh, was it? Then they are certainly overdue!

Syd: Non showed up at the end and he still hasn’t killed anyone. It was such a downer ending the episode this way, because after the fun diversion of Barry’s visit, I remember they have to do this stupid Non thing I don’t want to watch.

Margaret: I was so glad to forget this plot line, but I guess they just have to wrap it up in the last two episodes they have. Hopefully we will never have to speak of it again after that. I am honestly hoping it is a little like the Doctor Who Episode where people with certain blood types are mind controlled onto roof ledges and held hostage. If that’s the case, Kara could force Myriad into switching the blood type to Kryptonian, which means she’ll be in danger, too and can be rescued by her team.

Syd: That would be way smarter than what they actually do.

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Syd: A-

Margaret: A!

Syd: This is completely unprecedented on Supergirl. I have no idea how to handle this. This was actually a fun episode.

Margaret: I loved seeing the Flash on this episode. I was of two minds going into this. Either I was going to be very sad because I like the Flash and he was going to be mishandled by the Supergirl writers, but instead, I enjoyed it and can hope that Supergirl can continue the fun momentum moving forward. It gave me optimism.

Syd: The Flash inspires S!

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